SW-Motech pulls G310R centre stand - BMW G310 R/GS Forum
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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 05-04-2018, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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SW-Motech pulls G310R centre stand

Just had my order for an SW-Motech centre stand cancelled by UK disti Motohaus.com. Apparently there have been complaints about fitting the stand to the bike.

Motohaus reports that SW-Motech is saying:

"They checked the motorcycle again and found that BMW has such high frame tolerances that almost no bike is similar to another. Sadly there is not a center stand that will fit."

I'm not sure what this means. If the frame tolerances are that high, then the stand will fit them all. What I think they mean is that the frame tolerances are so *low*, they are not consistent enough for an aftermarket stand to fit reliably. Something to do with them being built in India? If so, not very reassuring.

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Strange...

If true, that means no swingarm is positioned the same to the rest of the bike?

And how does a Thai welder manage to do one that works but not a German?

As far as I know, the frame specs are the same for the R and the GS
(if the design objective for BMW is to make a inexpensive entry level series why would they use 2 different frames?)

Again, strange answer.
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Centre Stand for the R

I have been waiting for news about the stand for the R, and in the meantime I have spent money on other mods.The time has now come for
a centre stand,so, after reading all the posts, and it seems being mucked about by the aftermarket German supplier and the UK 'agent'
I have contacted, via Ebay, the supplier of the stand for MichealJ's GS- BMW G310gs 2017 2018 Centerstand Center Parking Stand- Moto Roar in Thailand. Assuming he can read English or get someone who can, because I certainly can't speak Thai. It will be interesting to see what kind of response i get back, if any. Will keep you posted.
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Centre Stand for R update

In my previous post i said I would contact the BMW G310R centre stand supplier (Moto Roar, kindly supplied by Michael J) which i did, He is going to see if it is possible. to make a stand for the G.(as most of you know he already does one for the GS) below is the reply i got this morning.
Lets hope he succeeds.
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I took photos of both the GS and R models (from underneath looking up) and the frames seem to be identical, with the same mounting points in the same locations. The only difference should be the leg height of the centerstand.

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Links to full size images - GS & R respectively:

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https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-.../i-f2P4jn8.jpg
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Motohaus reports that SW-Motech is saying:

"They checked the motorcycle again and found that BMW has such high frame tolerances that almost no bike is similar to another. Sadly there is not a center stand that will fit."
Any thoughts?
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That statement does not make sense to me.
Replace the word "tolerances" with "differences" and then it makes some sense.
If that is true, that there is inconsistencies with the frames, (sizing, strength, etc.) how did they pass inspections?
Something strange in their answer to these bikes.

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No, what they have is correct, the tolerances are high.

i.e. they 'tolerate' a wide variation in dimensions.
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No, what they have is correct, the tolerances are high.

i.e. they 'tolerate' a wide variation in dimensions.

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I don't suppose the wizards at Rally Raid would be interested in looking at this problem for us R owners.I know its not an adventure bike (the R I mean not the GS) and by the amount of forum members interested in buying one must be in double figures, so it would probably be a profitable exercise, and what about non forum members? across the world?. I know dealers and suppliers(?) read these forums because my dealer told me he is a regular reader (only company rules forbid participation) I bet a small engineering firm could knock one of these stands up in a couple of days. Its a shame really that BMW cancelled this as an option, and very strange the reply received by fellow member ,Goldburg101 form the uk importer.

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The only thing I can see being a prob on home made stand is how it locks when operated, I would like a go at `home made` I did a rad protector, rear rack that don't need you scrap the grab handles and a mod to let me see the signal turn has not been cancelled, as you know in bright light and being small its not easy to see on the dash.
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