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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-29-2019, 06:12 PM Thread Starter
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Power Commander for G310GS

Dynojet is looking for a donor bike in the Las Vegas area to confirm fit-up of a Power Commander V unit on a G310GS. If you are willing, they will have the bike for a week.

I don't work for Dynojet, I just know they are looking for a bike from talking to some of their people. Contact me over at ADVrider.com and I'll forward your info.

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I used Dnynojet in a couple of bikes, and I am not so fond of it. it is kind of old system. I hope some other company will come up with a fuel enrichment solution...

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Well these days my tuner of choice is no tuner at all, and an unlocked ECU with the tools to do it myself. For example, some of my previous generation Triumphs (675R) and KTM (690 supermoto) I could just plug in TuneECU, install my new map, make any changes I want and be done with it. Easy and free.



These days however more and more ECU's are getting locked down so you have to use a piggyback controller. If someone has "cracked" the ECU sometimes you can send it off to get it reflashed but most of the time you have to use a piggyback controller. With the BMW 310, it's kind of a fringe bike. I doubt anyone is going to put in the work on the ECU.

As far as a piggyback controller, Dynojet does it well and if you have to use one there's really no reason to use anything else. You mention a "fuel enrichment solution" like you might be talking about the BoosterPlugs and other tricks that some people are using. The proper way to do it is with air/fuel mapping on a x/y table with revs and throttle position.

You can't properly control an ECU with a "PowerJet" controller.

Real tuners map air/fuel ratio to a table.

Dynojet's Power Commander V also has the functionality of adjusting ignition timing, something that Bazzaz and many others do not have in their base units without an expensive add-on. So in summary, Dynojet is old, but it's also the most refined, and if you have to have a piggyback tuner it's the best choice.

The point of my original post is not to promote "stupid tuning options" for the G310GS. It's to help find a donor bike for Dynojet in Las Vegas so they can finally confirm fitup and get an official offering on the market. On the other hand, maybe they just don't care. These bikes aren't very common. If they really wanted an option on the market for the GS they would have bought a bike to work with.
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Well these days my tuner of choice is no tuner at all, and an unlocked ECU with the tools to do it myself. For example, some of my previous generation Triumphs (675R) and KTM (690 supermoto) I could just plug in TuneECU, install my new map, make any changes I want and be done with it. Easy and free.



These days however more and more ECU's are getting locked down so you have to use a piggyback controller. If someone has "cracked" the ECU sometimes you can send it off to get it reflashed but most of the time you have to use a piggyback controller. With the BMW 310, it's kind of a fringe bike. I doubt anyone is going to put in the work on the ECU.

As far as a piggyback controller, Dynojet does it well and if you have to use one there's really no reason to use anything else. You mention a "fuel enrichment solution" like you might be talking about the BoosterPlugs and other tricks that some people are using. The proper way to do it is with air/fuel mapping on a x/y table with revs and throttle position.

You can't properly control an ECU with a "PowerJet" controller.

Real tuners map air/fuel ratio to a table.

Dynojet's Power Commander V also has the functionality of adjusting ignition timing, something that Bazzaz and many others do not have in their base units without an expensive add-on. So in summary, Dynojet is old, but it's also the most refined, and if you have to have a piggyback tuner it's the best choice.

The point of my original post is not to promote "stupid tuning options" for the G310GS. It's to help find a donor bike for Dynojet in Las Vegas so they can finally confirm fitup and get an official offering on the market. On the other hand, maybe they just don't care. These bikes aren't very common. If they really wanted an option on the market for the GS they would have bought a bike to work with.
first thing to know is that person who is using dynojet needs to have some knowledge about all these variables, such as fuel/air ratio, timing, etc...you kind of need to be 'professional'. I played with dynojet in my Vulcan in many ways, and I did not really see improvement, I could not even eliminate popping in the open exhaust. In the end, the bike just did not start because some wire was broken. I am not saying that Dynojet is bad, but it is a bit too complicated for an average rider and all the wiring does not inspire confidence. I trust more simple systems like EJK or booster plug. In my Tiger 800 the company offered to change the ECU map for open exhaust. I had at that time booster plug in combination with the map change and the bike was running too rich, so I removed booster plug.

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Any update on this, just curious about the power bump, torque figure and overall performance improvement.
youtube video link would be really helpful.
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Dynojet is looking for a donor bike in the Las Vegas area to confirm fit-up of a Power Commander V unit on a G310GS. If you are willing, they will have the bike for a week.

I don't work for Dynojet, I just know they are looking for a bike from talking to some of their people. Contact me over at ADVrider.com and I'll forward your info.

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i used Dynojet on several bikes, and I hate it. It is an outdated system, Dynasore era. It created more problems than benefits in my bikes.

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I used a PCV on my 2016 KTM RC390 and had the ECU flashed and PCV mapped by Commonwealth Motorcycles in KY and it works great. It also has the open airbox mod and a RS9 Yoshimura exhaust. Only drawback is that bike is twitchy at low speeds.


The only thing I hate about the PCV is that you have to take the whole bike apart and sometimes guess that you are making the correct connection. There should be just a simple jump connection. One plug to the ECU then one plug the wiring harness. Even if it is$100 more, it is worth it to not have to take everything apart to make connections.


I am sure they can get a loaner from a dealer or even BMW themselves. I also think the unit would be the same for either the "R" or the "GS" but maybe I am wrong on that.


I just looked and they make one for the 310R

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I find the small BMW powerful enough. If one wants more power, a bigger bike is needed. small gs is a bit too weak on the lower torque end, but that can be remedied with changing the sprockets, smaller front or bigger rear or both (as I did). I spent so much money on modifying bikes (oh god, if he exists which I doubt). the small bmw is good as it is, no need to change anything as far as power is concerned, in my opinion...

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Any update on this, just curious about the power bump, torque figure and overall performance improvement.
youtube video link would be really helpful.
Dynojet never got a donor bike to test and confirm fitup. As of now Dynojet still does not have an option for the G310GS.

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i used Dynojet on several bikes, and I hate it. It is an outdated system, Dynasore era. It created more problems than benefits in my bikes.
Careful everyone, this is a guy who was trying to talk people into a cheap add-on resistor box as a valid tuning option. People, get your advice from other people who are qualified to give it. The Power Commander is a perfectly fine tuning option and the only problems with it are are created by clueless end users, poor installations, a lack of dyno tuning or installing unknown or unproven maps.


Note all: I don't check this forum much. I find better discussion about the G310GS and more knowledgeable people at ADVrider.

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Like I said earlier, they make one for G310R so it should work for GS. Connections are probably same as engine is same. They only problem might be connection wire length but a BMW technician should be able to answer that.

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