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post #31 of 44 (permalink) Old 09-21-2018, 06:49 AM
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Crush washers are meant for allowing a perfect seal and they will "crush" a little bit, preventing you to over-tight the bolt. I often did not replace the crush washer systematically on each oil change, but I was told using the same crush washer over and over could damage the threads of the casing in the long run, it makes sense and for what they cost, I prefer to do it whenever possible.
Revisiting this otherwise excellent post - a couple of points.

A crush washer will NOT, repeat, NOT prevent you from overtightening the drain plug (and perhaps stripping out the threads in the engine case). As the OP noted, its purpose is to seal the gap between the soft (aluminum) engine case and the hard (steel) drain plug. The copper washer is softer than either of those and will deform first.

The reason to use a new washer is that the copper crush washer will work harden with repeated use and will lose its ability to crush into the minute gaps between the case and plug - so you want to use a new washer each time.

You CAN get more life from a crush washer by annealing it, but it's orders of magnitude simpler just to buy a new one. It doesn't have to be OEM, just one with the proper sized hole in the middle.
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Thanks for this!
I'm not too clumsy with tools, but I'm also not an expert mechanic, so any help is always great.

I would LOVE to see if we can start compiling something like this...

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post #33 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-23-2019, 01:33 AM
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$25 for an oil filter is stupid. I'm looking for something cheaper and fits.

$25 is ridiculous
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Actually I just ordered oil and filters etc yesterday from a BMW dealer here in CA, and the filter is $15.79 plus sales tax (I also ordered filter anc oil for my C650 Sport). I think the costs are ok, considering all other costs like depreciation, insurance and the rest of it. After all you save time and labor cost as well:

Order Contents:
P/N Quantity Price EA Description
83212365963 6 $ 16.25 Original BMW ADVANTEC Pro engine oil 15W-50, 1 L
11428562889 1 $ 15.79 Oil filter
11138562767 1 $ 3.12 O-ring
11427673541 1 $ 19.74 Oil filter
07119963252 1 $ 1.79 Gasket ring
07119963252 2 $ 1.79 Gasket ring

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So a few days after I placed the order I referred to in my previous post, I decided to track the order to know when to expect it to arrive. Lo and behold the order status on their website (BMW Burbank) said "cancelled". They had not bothered to inform me, and when I asked, they said "sorry, we cannot send you oil, we have let our webshop provider know". So silly. So I ordered the same parts from A&S Motorcycle Parts (another on-line retailer here in California) and a few short days later, voila.
I do feel BMW's parts site is hard to navigate, not user friendly (they have that in common with Mercedes, they are the absolute worst) but refusing to send oil to their customers? Making it difficult to love them.
Yesterday I changed the oil + filter on my C650 Sport, today or this weekend we'll do the 310R.

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Hey Cees, I've been in the Burbank dealership at least 5 times and aside from Justin (main desk), ppl are just not on top of stuff. They'll take a long time, they finish servicing your bike but don't let you know (while you're waiting in the lounge) and just have this overall energy of just doing hours not there to really help or be proactive. So I'm not surprised the website part is sloppy too.

I'd recommend always calling and following up closely whenever when dealing with them. I think the Long Beach one may be a bit better (but farther for me).

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So this morning I changed the oil and filter. Easy-peasy, except that the old filter was on mighty tight, I had to break out one of those filter wrenches. I changed the brake fluid as well, front and rear, also quite easy. Final act was to connect my tablet with the MotoScan app via the OBDlink LX and, after checking for codes (there were none, in the motor management, ABS system, or instrument cluster), reset the service date to next April. All set for the coming year, just add fuel.

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So this morning I changed the oil and filter. Easy-peasy, except that the old filter was on mighty tight, I had to break out one of those filter wrenches. I changed the brake fluid as well, front and rear, also quite easy. Final act was to connect my tablet with the MotoScan app via the OBDlink LX and, after checking for codes (there were none, in the motor management, ABS system, or instrument cluster), reset the service date to next April. All set for the coming year, just add fuel.
Which service was this? 1 year, xxxx miles? When do you need to check your valve spacings?
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post #39 of 44 (permalink) Old 04-08-2019, 02:30 AM
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Great write-up.
By the way, I would never buy BMW oil at that price. I'm not going to give money away to BMW.
Rotella T6 Synthetic Diesel Oil matches the API SJ and JASO MA2 requirements at only $22 for a gallon.

eBay has 4 oil filters for $38

Don't even get me started with the $600+ first service maintenance. LOL

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This was the first service after the 'running in' one, which I had done by BMW last April. I am following the user manual service schedule, according to which the valve clearances are to be checked first at 12,000 miles (my bike has around 2,000 miles).

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