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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-07-2018, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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Shifting Up Without Clutch

What is everyone's opinion on shifting without using the clutch on the G310R? I'm referring to shifting up only. I've always read about it and never actually tried it.

The research I've done claims it's fine as bikes use constant mesh transmissions. I did see a recommendation to not do it on bikes made in India for some reason...
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It is speed shifting and it does work, but if it is not recommended it should not be done even if it works. I generally always use my clutch even though speed shifting works fine.
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You have to develop a feeling for it.
It is possible to shift without using the clutch and in my humble opinion, it doesnít hurt the bike.
I do it not al the time but I can do it.
It is even possible to downshift without using the clutch bit in this case, you also have to develope a feeling for it.
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It is speed shifting and it does work, but if it is not recommended it should not be done even if it works. I generally always use my clutch even though speed shifting works fine.
The "don't do it on Indian bikes" was more of a cut against quality. Not a design issue per se.
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Didn't even know you could shift without the clutch. Do you just shift as usual without depressing the clutch? Is there a science to it?
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Didn't even know you could shift without the clutch. Do you just shift as usual without depressing the clutch? Is there a science to it?
Right before you would shift, reduce throttle, shift up a normal. There's some timing involved.
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These are BMW designed, not TVS designed. They are just manufactured in India.
The speed shifting feels the same as any other bike I have rode, but it is always better to use the clutch on any bike.
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Yes, I agree use the clutch that's why its there!
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These are BMW designed, not TVS designed. They are just manufactured in India.
The speed shifting feels the same as any other bike I have rode, but it is always better to use the clutch on any bike.
The largest reason I ask is because I've read it actually causes LESS wear.
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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-07-2018, 03:21 PM
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I have clutchless shifted up and down on my 310 GS with no issues (so far!). Done this on many bikes over the years without any issues. It is useful when off road when I want to grip the bar well but need to change gear, particularly when the going is tricky / rocky / slippy.
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