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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-21-2019, 09:37 PM Thread Starter
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Trade-in value - wait for it ... how it works in California

Today I decided to check out a possible replacement for my little 310R. All the experiences with serious breakdowns (exploding clutches, imploding charging systems, seized-up rusting brakes, coolant leaks) coupled with deplorable service from BMW got me worried.
Well I believe I am married to the bike and divorce could be expensive.

The scene: large multi-make motorcycle dealer in Los Angeles. The contender a 2019 Suzuki 400 DRSM (supermoto, because I really like that type of bike) advertised on the website for $6,299, $1,050 below MSRP ("SALE"). Trading in the 310R from Feb 2018 with 2,060 miles and an Akrapovic exhaust and Puig levers. Never been down, looks brand new, runs like a top, bla bla bla.

The numbers: "please pay us $7,200 and give us the BMW, and we'll give you the Suzuki".

The main elements in there are $1,800 'A.D.M. fees' (Additional Dealer Markup) and a trade-in value of 'market value' $1,250, generously increased "so we can get you out of here with the new bike TODAY" by another $250.

I expect they would put the 310 on the floor for say $4,250 (sorry, $4,199 'plus fees').

So for a bike advertised for $6,300 I would trade in my $3,500 BMW and I expected to pay an additional say $3,500 including the 10% California sales tax nobody ever mentions until the very end. Instead they wanted more than double that. I just had to laugh, thanked the friendly sales person, and walked out thinking "what a total waste of time that was".

It was a good reminder of how some dealers in the US work, get away with false advertising, and how they approach their customer relationship.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-23-2019, 01:27 PM
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The 310R is not a bad bike. With a 36k miles BMW warranty, just ride the heck out of it.
Next time, buy the bike that you really want. Don't settle.
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I traded my 310GS for the F850gs. My 310 had about 11k miles a few scratches here and there, no aftermarket parts other than SW-MOTECH skid plate and the handlebar that I had to replace because the OEM bent on a fall. They paid $3500 on my bike. I know that I could have probably got a better a deal selling to a third party but I think the 3500 was a fear price and I got a really nice deal on the 850.

Your trade-in value of 1250 is SUCH A BULLSHIT!!!!! I am glad you walked out of that dealer.

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I traded my 310GS for the F850gs. My 310 had about 11k miles a few scratches here and there, no aftermarket parts other than SW-MOTECH skid plate and the handlebar that I had to replace because the OEM bent on a fall. They paid $3500 on my bike. I know that I could have probably got a better a deal selling to a third party but I think the 3500 was a fear price and I got a really nice deal on the 850.

Your trade-in value of 1250 is SUCH A BULLSHIT!!!!! I am glad you walked out of that dealer.
How is the seat-height difference between 310GS and 850?
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How is the seat-height difference between 310GS and 850?
It's a little higher, specially because I have the comfort seat on the 850. I am only 5.9 and I can put both feet down but not flat foot both at the same time, even with the suspension set to minimum, but that's ok.

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