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i writing from my experience with CRF250L. I have crashed so many times (suffering now knee injury) and nothing happened to the bike. How are the Gs fairings?

Then, I have no idea why engine guard is needed, other than adding more weight? False security? if the bike falls, the engine is not in direct contact with the tiny single cylinder, so what is the point? The upper guard might make more sense if the fairing is sensitive to damage; even then, mostly the handlebars make the contact.

I have many bikes, and I spent so much money on accessories, and I really begin to wonder where is the line between the marketing scheme of the aftermarket accessor companies and the actual need. For instance, the plastic skid plate appears to be adequate (even if not that great looking) unless you ride on some crazy roads which is not suitable for that bike anyway. For instance, i fitted metal skid plate on my Tiger 800 xr and regretted it - it is entirely useless for my purposes and makes the access to oil filter difficult.
 

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According to my dealer’s microfiche, replacing the plastics on the GS will cost me US$20. So I could buy several sets of them before I reached the cost of a single set of engine guards.

Less weight is good on a bike this underpowered. So I won’t be installing any metal guards, bash plates, nor pannier racks.
 

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According to my dealer’s microfiche, replacing the plastics on the GS will cost me US$20. So I could buy several sets of them before I reached the cost of a single set of engine guards.

Less weight is good on a bike this underpowered. So I won’t be installing any metal guards, bash plates, nor pannier racks.
Thanks for that input. Just waste of money and adding weight to the bike. I wonder how honda managed to design their side panels in crf250 so well and flexible that no crush can create any damage. in many bikes the panels are just too brittle...
 

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Exactly what part is only $20? The oil filter alone is almost that cost ($15) I have never known any body panels to be that low cost. Maybe one of the small pieces?
 

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If you don't crash you don't need them. Same can be said about seat belts I guess. The day you crash and do damage you will wonder if the outcome would have been different if you had crash protection. Then it becomes an accounting exercise - is the repair costs less than what the crash protection would have cost. No guarantee that the crash protection would have not prevented any damage and you will likely have to repair/paint the crash bars.

Don't forget the cool looking factor with the potential false sense of security. The real reason I think most people purchase crash protection. There's no real way to argue that you might be right. I often wonder about all the tech jargon when it comes to motorcycle safety gear. With all the "armor" I feel sometimes I might be in an episode of Game of Thrones and not out for a leisurely ride on my bike. :laugh:

This video shows a guy demonstrating the crash bars on his African Twin.

Is it just me but every time he drops it I instinctively want to jump at the screen to save the bike from hitting the ground. He also provides us with the bikers universal hands up in the air when you know you don't have control anymore! The "please don't let my bike get damaged posture" LOL! He doesn't look that confident to me that the outcome is going to be positive. LOL!

 

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According to my dealer’s microfiche, replacing the plastics on the GS will cost me US$20. So I could buy several sets of them before I reached the cost of a single set of engine guards.

Less weight is good on a bike this underpowered. So I won’t be installing any metal guards, bash plates, nor pannier racks.
Where is your dealer? I can't get a bolt for less than $20
 

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Remember watching this one before and wanted to share. The author says "I drop the bike a lot". LOL

I would agree!

Crash protector in action...

 

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Exactly what part is only $20? The oil filter alone is almost that cost ($15) I have never known any body panels to be that low cost. Maybe one of the small pieces?
It's called the "Badge Holder Blank," (BMW part nr. 46638388669). It's the silver plastic piece that holds the BMW roundel, and is the most likely part to get scratched in a low-speed dump.

If you crash harder, the black plastic intake snorkel surrounding it is only US$31.
 

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there is a youtube video with the Gs 310 crashing (you can see it at 7min of the video), and even though he fell pretty hard, there was almost no damage. I do have crash bars on my bigger bikes, Tiger 800 and Versys 1000, but they have different geometry and the side panels stick out more. good handguards can be useful, but I usually use short brake/clutch levers so these would not be touched in the event of dropping the bike. the stock levers do not look good in my eyes and are not adjustable. i like to have the brake lever closer to my hand. https://www.amazon.com/Racing-Aluminum-Adjustable-Clutch-Levers/dp/B07DKWM8ZY


 

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I dropped my bike for the first time 2 weeks ago. I wasn't riding and was pretty **** embarrassing. I was in a gas station fueling up during a trip (so my bike was packed with camping gear) and I while holding the rubber thing on the nozzle I leaned too much on the bike and the bike went straight down. Fuel cap was open, gas everywhere...

Well, I quickly picked the bike up before a lot of gas leaked, but I was concern with potential damages. The noise as pretty loud and I was expecting at least a couple scratches, but surprisingly the fairing, tank and engine didn't even touch the ground. The only thing that touched was part of the heat shield of the exhaust that showed a little scratch and my Barkbuster hand-guard bent a little, which I already fixed.

I know that on a real fall on a trail or road the speed and momentum will most likely cause bigger damages but I was surprised that nothing got really damage.
 

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I've found the GS drops/crashes very well - this was a low-side on soft dirt and it spun nearly 180° - I was actually heading in the direction the camera is pointing!



The bodywork in general is nice and narrow, and as long as you've got some strong [backbone style] hand guards fitted, you ought not to suffer any serious damage to the tank/fairing bodywork.

Jx
 
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