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BMW absolutely SUCKS on this one issue

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there are probably several reasons .
they don't trust you to do the work properly.
If you have no manual then you have to return to dealer.!
here they can charge you a good fee for doing even the simple tasks .
e.g. re-set service reminder. 2minute job.
having a full manual will give you all the knowledge that they would rather you did not know about.
and then they get all upset when boot-leg dvd manuals appear on the web.

I'm well aware that today's bike owner is less likely to do their own service/maintenance and that is understandable.
but there are many that for whatever reason want or need to do this work themselves.
We want the choice.
From a personal point of view I enjoy doing my own bike work as well as saving a ton of money.
I also feel that I can do as good [or better] job than some dealers.
- for instance when the brake caliper recall was done on my bike , the hydrolics were still spongy with air still in the system.! -
I think I've ranted on long enough ;-)
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I also feel that I can do as good [or better] job than some dealers.
There's simply no way a dealer tech is going to give the time, care, and attention to detail that I do in servicing my own vehicles. They'd get fired.

It's not that I'm a better mechanic, it's that I can dedicate as much time as I wish and work carefully, meticulously. The errors I've found behind dealership techs from BMW, Audi, Fiat, Ford, etc. are always from going too fast. Today's shops are software managed, time tracked, and techs must meet efficiency goals. This results in less careful work.

And then don't get me started on the "throw parts at the problem" mentality these days, and the rarity of thorough, thoughtful troubleshooting. One manufacturer recently made a big deal about a new "Fixed on First Visit" campaign they were rolling out as a training to dealership shops. As if that's a ground breaking idea, actually fixing a vehicle that pulls into your bay, instead of needing two or three goes at the same issue.

I have factory manuals for my Kawasakis, Audi, Fords, Fiat .... only BMW treats me as incapable.

It's just irritating that a great brand has this one glaring issue for enthusiast owners.

Thankfully, I found the TVS info.
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Yeah it gets worse as this is the model of the future. For some manufacturers not all. Supposedly there’s subscription service coming down the pipe where you pay for as much knowledge as required, digitally. The poor BMW techs don’t have a manual either!! They have to query the mother ship for details and authorization to even diagnose. Nutty.
I don’t think it’s a reason to dump as sweet ride like the 310, but I’d admit it really made getting my new Honda even sweeter with a real paper Service Manual. My local dealer took on BMW as an extra to thier Honda/Harley/Enfield. Service Manager said from his view, a total pain dealing with the BMW business model on all levels. Plus the Beemer crowd, though well funded are not near a nice to deal with than HD folk.
Enjoy the swell 310 irrespective eh? Riding will make you feel betterabout the whole affair.
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Coming from the BMW R1200RT world and as a member on the BMWMOA there are tons of resources on the web for other BMW MC. It's just going to take a bit of time for resources to build up in the community for the G310R/GS. I bought my 2010 R1200RT used back in 2016 and never gave any thought to the lack of service manuals. I have resealed the front fork(no really a regular MC fork), replaced front and rear struts, even rebuilt the side case locking mechanism, done front and rear brakes, in the process of rebuilding the rear caliper now, serviced the rear final drive, changed both front and rear ties. All without a BMW service manual.
Riding will make you feel betterabout the whole affair.
I find the vast majority of life's problems can be dealt with by just going for a ride instead. 🤣✌
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Coming from the BMW R1200RT world and as a member on the BMWMOA there are tons of resources on the web for other BMW MC. It's just going to take a bit of time for resources to build up in the community for the G310R/GS. I bought my 2010 R1200RT used back in 2016 and never gave any thought to the lack of service manuals. I have resealed the front fork(no really a regular MC fork), replaced front and rear struts, even rebuilt the side case locking mechanism, done front and rear brakes, in the process of rebuilding the rear caliper now, serviced the rear final drive, changed both front and rear ties. All without a BMW service manual.
I was a trained dealer mechanic early in life. It's difficult for me to set aside that training of wanting every thing done according to spec and procedure.

Thankfully, the TVS manual is easy to find and doesn't require DVD.
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Breath in and out, go for a ride.

The R1200RT resources are to spec and do follow procedures. It's just not written on a nice sheet of paper in a 3 ring binder :)!
this guy. 🤣
Different topic, but : What do you think of a larger drive sprocket for the R?
Different topic, but : What do you think of a larger drive sprocket for the R?
I'm going 17 on the chain change for sure. Too far into current chain and rear to swap the front now. But for sure when the chain is due.
Could someone please put a link on here to the TVS manual.
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Could someone please put a link on here to the TVS manual.
I've placed it here in a thread before.

Google "RR310 Service Manual" and I'm sure you'll find joy.
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Here's a link to my copy; you should be able to download a copy using it...

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