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I had service today, and I was forced by the service man to fill my engine with their oil. Or else I lose warranty (oh god). I don't know what kind of crap they forced me to put in my engine, as no description on the bottle is written. first of all, I do not want to use mineral oil, as i am storing now my bike for 6 moths, and mineral oil deteriorates in 3 months even if you do not use it. i hate when the bike companies force people to use 'their oil' because they make money by being affiliated with one of the oil brands. but when nothing is written on the bottle, not even who made it, this pisses me off.
 

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BMW branded motor oil is going to be a high quality product. All current BMW motor oils, to my knowledge are being made by the Shell Oil company, utilizing their new production technology. All current Shell motorcycle oils are manufactured from natural gas, not crude oil, which results in a much cleaner and higher quality product. BMW Advantec 15W-50, recommended for the G310 bikes is actually a semi-synthetic oil. Other BMW oils are full synthetic. I do not know why BMW choose to utilize full synthetic oil in some models and semi-synthetic in the G310. I plan to use the Shell branded full synthetic Advance Motorcycle Oil, 15W-50 in my G310R. This oil can be purchased at any Advance Auto Parts Store for around $12.00 per container. Any of these oils, BMW branded or not, produced by Shell should be as good or better than anything available on the market. Check out Shells website for their line of motorcycle oils and have fun on your G310!
 

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It must be a market specific local requirement. For us, as long as the oil meets manufacturer specifications there is no compulsion to only use their stuff. If I remember correctly, my local dealer uses Motul, bike is still under warranty. No problem.

Same thing with Jeep in NZ. I don't have to use their branded oil as long as it meets the requirements.
 

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BMW branded motor oil is going to be a high quality product. All current BMW motor oils, to my knowledge are being made by the Shell Oil company, utilizing their new production technology. All current Shell motorcycle oils are manufactured from natural gas, not crude oil, which results in a much cleaner and higher quality product. BMW Advantec 15W-50, recommended for the G310 bikes is actually a semi-synthetic oil. Other BMW oils are full synthetic. I do not know why BMW choose to utilize full synthetic oil in some models and semi-synthetic in the G310. I plan to use the Shell branded full synthetic Advance Motorcycle Oil, 15W-50 in my G310R. This oil can be purchased at any Advance Auto Parts Store for around $12.00 per container. Any of these oils, BMW branded or not, produced by Shell should be as good or better than anything available on the market. Check out Shells website for their line of motorcycle oils and have fun on your G310!
thanks. I assume that you refer to the Shell Advanced Ultra oil, right? good to know this. never heard of GTL engine oil. do you think it is better than ester based synthetic? unfortunately, i doubt that the dealer has this oil, and they will not approve any oil without bmw name on it at the service oil change. I usually use Motul 7100 synthetic or Mobil 1. do you think that bmw semi-synthetic will deteriorate during 6 months storage?
 

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Yes, I referred to the Shell Advanced Ultra full-synthetic. I am not a lubrication engineer, just a biker that has learned from past experience that there are real advantages to full-synthetic motor oil usage. I know of no real world tests conducted comparing GTL to ester based oils. I used Mobil 1 for years with outstanding service but to my knowledge Mobil does not produce a 15w-50 full-synthetic motorcycle oil. I would have no issues with utilizing BMW semi-synthetic for a six month storage period and this is the oil that is currently in my machine. Consider checking with BMW corporate about your dealer pressuring you to use only BMW branded products. The owners manual states to use SAE 15W-50, API SJ/JASO MA2 and recommends the BMW branded product be used. The manual only recommends, it does not require the use of BMW oils. As long as your oil selection is of the appropriate grade and specification documented in your owners manual, there should be no issues.
 

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Yes, I referred to the Shell Advanced Ultra full-synthetic. I am not a lubrication engineer, just a biker that has learned from past experience that there are real advantages to full-synthetic motor oil usage. I know of no real world tests conducted comparing GTL to ester based oils. I used Mobil 1 for years with outstanding service but to my knowledge Mobil does not produce a 15w-50 full-synthetic motorcycle oil. I would have no issues with utilizing BMW semi-synthetic for a six month storage period and this is the oil that is currently in my machine. Consider checking with BMW corporate about your dealer pressuring you to use only BMW branded products. The owners manual states to use SAE 15W-50, API SJ/JASO MA2 and recommends the BMW branded product be used. The manual only recommends, it does not require the use of BMW oils. As long as your oil selection is of the appropriate grade and specification documented in your owners manual, there should be no issues.
yes, but these dealers in India are pretty stupid. of course, they have no way to check what oil I put in my engine, but still... different colour, etc... Anyway, for winter time 15w50w is too high viscosity. it is good for hot weather. engines like this like 10w40, or even 10w30 (what is used in honda crf 250)l. I am going now to Thailand where I have 3 bikes, and there nobody cares what oil I put in my engine.

the GTL oil seems to be a very interesting option, but not enough tests have been done to prove its superiority. we live in the age of marketing, and you never know what is true...
 

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BMW branded motor oil is going to be a high quality product. All current BMW motor oils, to my knowledge are being made by the Shell Oil company, utilizing their new production technology. All current Shell motorcycle oils are manufactured from natural gas, not crude oil, which results in a much cleaner and higher quality product. BMW Advantec 15W-50, recommended for the G310 bikes is actually a semi-synthetic oil. Other BMW oils are full synthetic. I do not know why BMW choose to utilize full synthetic oil in some models and semi-synthetic in the G310. I plan to use the Shell branded full synthetic Advance Motorcycle Oil, 15W-50 in my G310R. This oil can be purchased at any Advance Auto Parts Store for around $12.00 per container. Any of these oils, BMW branded or not, produced by Shell should be as good or better than anything available on the market. Check out Shells website for their line of motorcycle oils and have fun on your G310!
Now 15-50W BMW oil new batch is fully synthetic confirmed by BMW sg dealer.
 

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What Kris said is "There were NO markings on the bottle" which translates to: You have no idea what they used.


I would drain the oil and replace it with a known brand on a factory labeled bottle. I would also find a different dealer. If that is not possible, make them use factory labeled bottles (which are generally printed directly on the bottle, no paper/plastic label) and watch them pour it in. Make sure it is not a refilled bottle.


Sounds like they are scamming you and using a cheaper oil. I also think they are lying about warranty being voided. Call HQ in India and see what they say.


You can always change yourself (keep receipts of oil and filter) but if they have to drain to do service on engine, you are stuck.
 

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This is my second bike that I have rebuild engine. I doesn't matter I have seen the internal parts and did my own coatings fitments and micro polishing of all internal parts. I have no idea about this BMWs coatings and its properties. So I did my own stuff main reason to do this was I did not like the engine sound and valve rattle so open up and made it quitter engine. I did 3000 kms test its fine and feeling good.
 

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What Kris said is "There were NO markings on the bottle" which translates to: You have no idea what they used.


I would drain the oil and replace it with a known brand on a factory labeled bottle. I would also find a different dealer. If that is not possible, make them use factory labeled bottles (which are generally printed directly on the bottle, no paper/plastic label) and watch them pour it in. Make sure it is not a refilled bottle.


Sounds like they are scamming you and using a cheaper oil. I also think they are lying about warranty being voided. Call HQ in India and see what they say.


You can always change yourself (keep receipts of oil and filter) but if they have to drain to do service on engine, you are stuck.
Shell oil is more expensive in SG BMW oil is $26 per bottle 1Lit and Shell Advance fully synthetic is $34 per bottle.
 

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If you are that worried about what oil the dealer put in your bike, then change it yourself after you get the bike home.

$20 of oil and your worries are over
 

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I live on the tropics and I’ve just bought a used 310GS which is due for a service being 14 months old even though it’s only done 3300km.
I have enough Mobil 1 fully synthetic left over from my other bike’s service, but it’s 5-50!
I’m guessing this will be ok to use even though the ‘5’ is made for cold starting which I DEFINITELY never need to worry about.
It’s by far the most expensive oil on the shelf and works fine on my 650 V-Strom!


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I live on the tropics and I’ve just bought a used 310GS which is due for a service being 14 months old even though it’s only done 3300km.
I have enough Mobil 1 fully synthetic left over from my other bike’s service, but it’s 5-50!
I’m guessing this will be ok to use even though the ‘5’ is made for cold starting which I DEFINITELY never need to worry about.
It’s by far the most expensive oil on the shelf and works fine on my 650 V-Strom!


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in my opinion, 5W50 is not good for a bike. cars are using 5. you need minimum 10
 

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BMW branded motor oil is going to be a high quality product. All current BMW motor oils, to my knowledge are being made by the Shell Oil company, utilizing their new production technology. All current Shell motorcycle oils are manufactured from natural gas, not crude oil, which results in a much cleaner and higher quality product. BMW Advantec 15W-50, recommended for the G310 bikes is actually a semi-synthetic oil. Other BMW oils are full synthetic. I do not know why BMW choose to utilize full synthetic oil in some models and semi-synthetic in the G310. I plan to use the Shell branded full synthetic Advance Motorcycle Oil, 15W-50 in my G310R. This oil can be purchased at any Advance Auto Parts Store for around $12.00 per container. Any of these oils, BMW branded or not, produced by Shell should be as good or better than anything available on the market. Check out Shells website for their line of motorcycle oils and have fun on your G310![/QUOTE

Actually, the regular oil bmw uses, the Shell Advantec is not synthetic, it is just mineral, as it says on the bottle. I ordered several bottles of both from amazon and only the ultra is synthetic.
 

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GEOFF, Mobil 1 does not make a 5W-50 for motorcycles. They make a 4T that is 10W-40 and a V-Twin which I think is 10W-50 for Harleys.


The 5W-50 is for Cars/Trucks Only. DO NOT use in a motorcycle or you will damage engine.
 
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actually, 20W50 for Harley. True, 5W...is for cars
 

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I'm in the US and living in California, so I have more consumer rights. :)
As long as I follow the recommended oil from the manual (I recall JASO 2), the warranty is covered. I don't even have to take it to the dealer for service. I called the BMW dealer, and that was what they told me.

I went out and purchased Rotella T6 and a $10 oil filter and changed the oil myself.
$25 total.
 
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