Apples to oranges, you have to compare the current Apache it to the inbound BMW G310RR...
This screenshot is from BMW Motorrad - India's website...
Apples to oranges, you have to compare the current Apache it to the inbound BMW G310RR...Look closer at the fittings. The Apache comes with a large LCD screen and electronics the BMW lacks…..not the same unit.
No, The screenshot I provided above is the RR, not the R - BMW Motorrad India is showing the RR with a TFT. As best as I can tell from the equivalent R and GS pages, the BMW Motorrad India is still showing the R and GS with the current instrument cluster. This is why I told you that rather than getting race version of the 310R from Native Enterprise, I would prefer to get the street legal G310RR. Links...So the BMW 310r is coming with LCD screen now? And ride modes! And clip on bars. Hazard lights/can turn off headlights!
Huge difference than what been seen on BMW so far. Rumors are true. Thanks Colonel
No North America timeline yet, but given the sunk costs of putting the upgrades in the RR and the ease of transfer to the R and GS, I expect all the RR upgrades to migrate to the R and GS eventually. They have to because the competition in that class is heating up. I'm thinking RR will come to NA in MY 24 and the R and GS get upgraded in MY 25. That would be five years after the 2020 GS upgrade.Oh yeah R vs RR The RR quite like the TVS Apache Is there a release date for North America?
This would sure explain why GS not getting upgraded too. TVS has nothing Quite like it. Their dual sports are powered with different motor.
Not that it matters here in the US since the Apache isn't available, but I'm curious, in what way is the Apache "better spec" than the BMW RR?...the TVS Apache has a better spec than the near identical BMW RR (according to Autocar India).
Glad to hear you have this option and that you've taken it. I would have too in your situation. At this point, given your need for a reliable commuter, I would find a dealer with a sterling reputation near you and buy the bike they have that comes closest to meeting your needs. Thoughts from the peanut gallery: My BMW dealer is also a KTM dealer - most of their mechanics ride KTMs. A friend of mine has a KTM 390 and she loves it for on- and off-road. Noraly, aka Itchy Boots on Youtube, has been riding a Honda CRF300 Rally, first from South America to the top of Alaska and now in Morocco on her way in/around/through northern/western Africa. P.S. She did run with her chain too tight necessitating a engine rebuild to replace the bent output shaft, so maintain the proper slack on your chain. Good hunting and let us know what you end up with.I spoke to what we have in UK - citizens Advice - They explained the law for consumers with this specific issue I have had from day one and said I have full legal right to reject the bike.
I made the decision to do this today. So they are now discussing it and I am waiting on response.
Yes and no. Just like the S1000RR and S1000XR I have, and the S1000R I don't have, I would expect the G310RR, R, and GS ECU and TFT hardware to be the same while the programming would be unique to each bike's purpose and the badge on the bike, BMW or TVS.Not suggesting they are the same but based on core components to include the vitals such as engine, transmission, brakes, forks and wheels. As to the electronics, the ECU could well be different to enable the engine to meet US and EU emission regulations. The dash will of course be different, as will the styling to separate TVS from BMW. Had to chuckle at BMW describing the LED headlight on the RR as safe and convenient. I wonder if it helps you see where you are going at night. The RR is the same under the skin as what we already have, AKA badge engineering.