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Received and installed engine guards, fairing bars and a top case mount from Hepco & Becker. Engine guards and top case mount were great fits and installed easily. The fairing bars required coming up with a couple of spacers. Also, where they join in a sleeve connection it required filing and grinding to remove enough of the heavy paint to establish a sleeve connection. A bit of a PITA but the end result seems good.
 

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Looks good. Details on the spacers? These bars are at the top of my list at the moment.

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Both spacers were required at the top connection under the “beak”. On the rider’s left side (clutch side) I needed a 5mm spacer and a longer screw, an M5x25 as opposed to the OEM M5x15. On the rider’s right side (brake side) I required a 10mm spacer and longer screw (used same as left side). I’m not crazy about this connection point and may strengthen it at some point... though it does use a hard point, the connection method (per H&B installation instructions) is to use the OEM screw, which is a simple body screw and anchors in one of the clips used all over the body. As noted the connection does travel through a metal flange hard point but this really doesn’t seem adequate for something designed to preserve the body panels.

I have had terrible experiences with these body panel clips that act as nuts. They are very fragile and in two cases when they broke they also broke off part of a plastic connection point, requiring some creative repair. I bought a bag of 10 at the dealer and have already used 8 of them as the clip becoming bent is what leads to the connection point damage. So if bent i tossed them and replaced with new. So far that seems to be working out fine. Hopefully I am done now with removal of body panels!

Along those lines one final comment on the fairing guards. One of the things I like is how well they fit, with minimal spacing from the body, leaving a pretty compact overall width. However today I discovered the price that requires - the upper guards have to be removed to remove the main body panel (tank cover, fairings, etc.). As I was replacing the bent or broken fasteners noted above I had to remove the bars first. The small logo panels can be removed by carefully bringing them out, but not the main piece.

No idea whether the spacer requirement on the bars is a tolerance issue or what...
 

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Both spacers were required at the top connection under the “beak”. On the rider’s left side (clutch side) I needed a 5mm spacer and a longer screw, an M5x25 as opposed to the OEM M5x15. On the rider’s right side (brake side) I required a 10mm spacer and longer screw (used same as left side). I’m not crazy about this connection point and may strengthen it at some point... though it does use a hard point, the connection method (per H&B installation instructions) is to use the OEM screw, which is a simple body screw and anchors in one of the clips used all over the body. As noted the connection does travel through a metal flange hard point but this really doesn’t seem adequate for something designed to preserve the body panels.

I have had terrible experiences with these body panel clips that act as nuts. They are very fragile and in two cases when they broke they also broke off part of a plastic connection point, requiring some creative repair. I bought a bag of 10 at the dealer and have already used 8 of them as the clip becoming bent is what leads to the connection point damage. So if bent i tossed them and replaced with new. So far that seems to be working out fine. Hopefully I am done now with removal of body panels!

Along those lines one final comment on the fairing guards. One of the things I like is how well they fit, with minimal spacing from the body, leaving a pretty compact overall width. However today I discovered the price that requires - the upper guards have to be removed to remove the main body panel (tank cover, fairings, etc.). As I was replacing the bent or broken fasteners noted above I had to remove the bars first. The small logo panels can be removed by carefully bringing them out, but not the main piece.

No idea whether the spacer requirement on the bars is a tolerance issue or what...
Installed the lower guard without issue. Attempted the the upper and could not get all four connection points to line up. Glad to have found your solution. I was losing my mind and was at the point of trying to force which I feel would have resulted in damaging the connection points under the front fender. I was convinced the brackets that are welded on the bar for the connection under the fender were attached at the wrong angle. This solution makes perfect sense. Looks to be a great product and really like the look. Do you have any concerns with your solution?What did you use for spacers and where did you purchase?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
 

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Installed the lower guard without issue. Attempted the the upper and could not get all four connection points to line up. Glad to have found your solution. I was losing my mind and was at the point of trying to force which I feel would have resulted in damaging the connection points under the front fender. I was convinced the brackets that are welded on the bar for the connection under the fender were attached at the wrong angle. This solution makes perfect sense. Looks to be a great product and really like the look. Do you have any concerns with your solution?What did you use for spacers and where did you purchase?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
I wonder why I did not need any additional spacers? all the parts provided by hepco were enough to fit both the lower and upper guards cleanly.
 

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I wonder why I did not need any additional spacers? all the parts provided by hepco were enough to fit both the lower and upper guards cleanly.
I'm wondering the same. If you figure it out I would love to know. Here's another thread where Focus Frenzy has the same issue. If you look at his pic you can see how the upper guard doesn't align with the bolt hole on the lower guard.

https://www.g310rforum.com/forum/194-bmw-g310-gs-general-discussion/6257-sw-motech-engine-guard-hepco-protection-bars-3.html
 

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I'm wondering the same. If you figure it out I would love to know. Here's another thread where Focus Frenzy has the same issue. If you look at his pic you can see how the upper guard doesn't align with the bolt hole on the lower guard.

https://www.g310rforum.com/forum/194-bmw-g310-gs-general-discussion/6257-sw-motech-engine-guard-hepco-protection-bars-3.html
this one is SV Motech. I had an assistance from my mechanic to fit Hepco lower and upper guards, and there were some challenges, but at the end the upper guards were just FORCED to go into the right place without any additional spacers. So you need to play with it a bit, instead of using spacers.
 

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this one is SV Motech. I had an assistance from my mechanic to fit Hepco lower and upper guards, and there were some challenges, but at the end the upper guards were just FORCED to go into the right place without any additional spacers. So you need to play with it a bit, instead of using spacers.
Yes I know the skid plate is SV motech. What I'm referencing and if you look closely at Focus Frenzy's pic you can see how the top H&B tank guard does not line-up with holes in the bottom H&B engine guard. Can you recall how you FORCED? I've attached the two bolts under the fender (kept as loose as possible for some play) and I still can only get one of the bolts to line up on the engine guard. I am fearful that if I force too much that I'm going to break the connecting points under the fender - it doesn't look that strong and parts of the plastic fender connect here as well. I also feel that I would literally have to bend steel to get it to fit. Also might consider bending the brackets that are welded on the top of the upper guard and attach under the fender but I fear that would end in a potential disaster. I don't think I should be bending of forcing anything - it show lineup - at least within reason to gets the bolts in and not having to get the assistance of a mechanic or a pipe fitter. :)
 

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Installed the lower guard without issue. Attempted the the upper and could not get all four connection points to line up. Glad to have found your solution. I was losing my mind and was at the point of trying to force which I feel would have resulted in damaging the connection points under the front fender. I was convinced the brackets that are welded on the bar for the connection under the fender were attached at the wrong angle. This solution makes perfect sense. Looks to be a great product and really like the look. Do you have any concerns with your solution?What did you use for spacers and where did you purchase?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
I have now run my setup with the spacers for roughly a year, 3,500 miles and probably 60/40 paved vs. unpaved, with no issues. I purchased the hardware, including the spacers, at my local True Value hardware store. As to the comments from others that did not require the spacers maybe later versions of the brackets were revised? No idea but mine were very early versions.
 

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I have now run my setup with the spacers for roughly a year, 3,500 miles and probably 60/40 paved vs. unpaved, with no issues. I purchased the hardware, including the spacers, at my local True Value hardware store. As to the comments from others that did not require the spacers maybe later versions of the brackets were revised? No idea but mine were very early versions.
My bike is a 2019 and I received the bars from Hepco and Becker through a dealer in Canada this week. Unless they were old stock which I assume they are not it still doesn’t add up. I sent an email to Hepco and Becker today I wonder if I’ll receive a response. Disappointed here because I thought Hepco and Becker were know for their fit and finish. I really like these bars so I want to get them to fit.
 

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My bike is a 2019 and I received the bars from Hepco and Becker through a dealer in Canada this week. Unless they were old stock which I assume they are not it still doesn’t add up. I sent an email to Hepco and Becker today I wonder if I’ll receive a response. Disappointed here because I thought Hepco and Becker were know for their fit and finish. I really like these bars so I want to get them to fit.
can you say again which part does not connect properly? I had the problem with the one connector, between the tank guard and engine guard. so I had to use some force to make it work.
 

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oh, I see, you had some problems under the beak. I did not have any problems there. either you received a faulty set, or you might have made some error during installation? also as I am sure you are aware, the horn mount needs to be replaced with hepco.

I also fitted Hepco side racks. it was not so easy, but worked.
 

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I have mine on now without the spacers. it took starting at the top first. it is easier to get the bottom mounting point to line up that the top.
 

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oh, I see, you had some problems under the beak. I did not have any problems there. either you received a faulty set, or you might have made some error during installation? also as I am sure you are aware, the horn mount needs to be replaced with hepco.

I also fitted Hepco side racks. it was not so easy, but worked.
I have followed the instructions directly. Swapped out the horn holder first. Removed the two bolts under the fender and used this hardware to connect the top part of the upper guard under the fender. Next I try lining up the upper guard to the holes on the lower guard. Using force and a friend I can get one in. Not a chance with the second. I have adjusted the bolts on top to full in and full out (everywhere in between) to see if I can get the right angle so the bottom will line up. No luck. I guess I can get a stronger friend but I'm putting **** of a lot of strain on the upper bolts. Wisdom tells me that further "brawn over brains" will result in a failed outcome. Guess if I'm keeping these there will be a trip to the hardware store in the near future to see if I can get them to fit. Still waiting on Hepco and Becker for a response. I choose these over some random set off the internet because I thought their fit would be better. Their price alone should of made them a superior product. Guess you don't always get what you pay for. :wink2: AliExpress looking better at the moment.

I also found this post yesterday on another site while looking for a solution to fitting the Hepco and Becker Upper crash guards.

"G. Thomas on Mar 11, 2019
upper bars had fitting problem
Bars are well made, good finish, easy to follow instructions with English as the second language. The only fault I had is that I needed to shim the upper attachment points by 1/2 an inch, which meant a trip to the hardware store for longer bolts, and 1/2 inch bushings. I think their jig needs to be checked for a better fit. The lowers went right on with no problems."
 

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Just wanted to follow up on the response from Hepco and Becker. Please see below.

"We know about this „problem“.
This is a BMW problem, which they have with this bike. This bike has very big tolerances.
The customer needs to close the gap with distances.
Other manufacturers(crashbar/handguard manufacturers) also have these problems and they offer distances to solve the problem.
We had the bike here twice and also we had this problem and we needed to solve it with distances.
I can send you some distances with your next delivery, if you want. (please let me know the measures).
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When they indicate distances they are referring to spacers.

Personally disappointed with the response. Seems like "passing the buck" by blaming BMW. If they are aware of the issue why aren't they notifying customers before purchase or at least including the distances(spacers) and bolts with the bars during the original purchase like other manufactures? I know I payed enough for them to toss in a few spacers and bolts.

Great bars, great quality, great finish, love the look but disappointed with the manufacturer knowing that a potential install issue exists and not taking the initiative to rectify.

Strike 1 - Hepco and Becker.

FYI I did request them to send along the spacers and bolts. Nothing to date so I went and used my own spacers and bolts and they fit perfectly now.
 

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I also fitted Hepco side racks. it was not so easy, but worked.
Hi Kris, I was wondering if you could share some more pics of your pannier racks? In particular, I'm wanting to see the rear, and if you could kindly measure the distance from the bike's centre-line to the right of the pannier rack. After changing the exhaust on my bike to a Scorpion, it sits out way past the my Givi racks, and am looking at solutions. Thanks mate! :D
 

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I've got the Hepco & Becker engine and fairing guards, so thought I'd share a few pics of them close up to help anybody considering them. IMO they're the hands-down the best looking option out there, and follow the bikes contours perfectly, while providing full protection. Very "factory" looking, and well finished product...well worth the cost!

Some people have mentioned having difficulty with installation, but I found them pretty straight forward. The trick is to fit everything loosely, then align and tighten. ;)











 

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I would agree these are by far the nicest and best looking. But to be clear to those reading this thread that your trick to getting them to fit may be incorrect for all.

"Some people have mentioned having difficulty with installation, but I found them pretty straight forward. The trick is to fit everything loosely, then align and tighten."

I have loosened everything and the differences to be made up are impossible without spacers. To give you an idea of what I'm speaking of, the attached picture is with the lower attachments points loosen to max (where upper guard attaches to lower guard). The picture shows where the upper crash bar attaches under the fender. Note the distance to be made up. The screws removed from these holes won't reconnect because of the distance. I actually replaced the screws with longer screws so they would connect and hoped to draw the the crash bars upwards to correct the distance. No such luck. Spacers were required.

FYI I also attempted this with attaching the upper first as per the install instructions. Actually I think I tried everything to get these to fit as per the instructions. The problem I believe as to do with the metal flangs under the beak where they are to attach. Because they are welded on there are variances on all bikes. This was noted as well by Hepco and Becker in their response to me. So to all that purchase you may have to use spacers to get them to fit to your specific bike. I should also note that this is for the upper crash guard only. The bottom ones fit perfectly.
 

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