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So I bought the Hepco & Becker C-Bow carrier with their Orbit Side Cases (610.293 00 01) and the turn signal hit the side of the saddle case. I am in the USA with a 2018 G310R, so wondering if the turn signals are longer here? I can get shorter aftermarket lights I am sure, but it is allot of work getting the tail lights off and I do not want to cut wires and void any warranties.

Guess I am asking, if anyone else has this issue or knows of it. Looking at the web page I bought them from it does seem like the turn signals are shorter. Is this a model year thing 17 to 18 or a USA thing with mine being longer?
 

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Indeed, we North American have wider turn signals (probably DOT mandated).

Had the same problem with my "made in India" Viaterra Claw saddlebag.

I bought Led blinkers on Ebay, and to make sure took the type II that extends the biker toward the rear.
(search eBay for : Motorcycle Front Turn Signal Indicator Lights For BMW G310 R 2015-2017)

The connectors are BMW standard, so no splicing necessary.
But be aware that the LEDs need either ballast resistors or a "dealer only" programming of the electronics to keep normal blinking rate.

Also, most of the rear end plastic must come off to effect the change.

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I have the Hepco Becker C Bow Carriers and bags and even though they push against the turn signal stalk it works o.k. as the stalk bends slightly. I have had them on for over 3000 miles and no problem.
 

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i hadn't looked at your pictures until now but don't think yours are bent any more than mine are. I just decided to live with that.
 

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Thanks all,

Yeah I know it is allot of work to take them out as I lossed one only to find out is was a nyloc nut on the other side and had to remove all that to tighten it back up. I would just get halogen bulbs again and found one on eBay that is for BMW so I do not have to do any flashing. They look almost OEM with DOT approved, so I am going with them. May search around more another one, but want to look OEM.

I like the hard saddle bags, hopefully they will not rattle and make noise as they do when I shake them. Been too cold to go out riding and even here in Texas we get cold weather. I thought about the soft bags, but I wanted more durable side bags, so got the hard case.
 

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I bought Led blinkers on Ebay, and to make sure took the type II that extends the biker toward the rear.
But be aware that the LEDs need either ballast resistors or a "dealer only" programming of the electronics to keep normal blinking rate.

RobertB
I looked these up and like the way they look and the other halogen ones I noted I do not think even have wires per pictures.
Will they just flash fast? I had the front unplugged and the rear flashed really fast. If that is the case I can live with that. Did you have your flashed or add the ballast resistor?
 

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The ones I bought came with correct connectors.
But I must admit that the ones I have are slightly misaligned for the hole for the bolt....nothing a drill to the plastic couldn't correct.

They flash really fast, even when keeping the original front halogen.
My original intention was to buy a LED compatible blinker relay. That's when I started looking for, and not finding the relay.
Looked it up in the service manual and that is when I saw that the last operation was flashing the bike...so I bought the ballast resistors, but haven't got to the installation yet...

30 cm of snow and -30 Celsius windchill will distract you of motorcycles for some strange reason.......

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30 cm of snow and -30 Celsius windchill, where are you from ?
I guess Iceland or Antarctica 😇

I saw, years ago, that the Swedish police was riding BMW boxers on snow and ice.
The had two skies on the left and the right and by cornering they put their foot on one of the skies are made a nice turn.
For braking they most of the time used the snow bank on the side of the road!
 

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I won't say a normal day in Montreal, but certainly a good winter storm.

and the day before that it was raining and + 10.

Montreal is a city that likes the number 30....-30 in winter and +30 in summer.

We are known to long all winter for summer....and then complain it's too Hot !

All this while being at the approximate latitude of Bordeaux....You get used to it!

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Lucky you 😜
Here summer max is 25 Celsius (sometimes hotter but followed by thunderstorms and .... rain)
Winter is max minus 10 Celsius and sometimes snow but most of the time is around 0 Celsius and lots of rain / ice.
 

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I got some shorter BMW OEM turn signals from a BMW S 1000 RR that are close to the non-USA signals. The correct ones are available new in the USA, but are $75 each and from part searching are from the R NineT, S 1000 XR, or F 800 R. They are just a little longer over the used ones I got from the S 1000 RR, but they do not hit the saddle bags and that is all that matters.
 

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If your indicators flash fast the police will be more likely to pull you over as they might think that your other indicator is out.
 

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If your indicators flash fast the police will be more likely to pull you over as they might think that your other indicator is out.
Motorcycles in Texas do not require turn signals, so it would not matter. I did not go with the LED version, so their are no issues with the flashing.
 

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If it were me I would just get longer mounting bolts and some aluminum or stainless steel tubing and make spacers to offset the bags enough to clear the turn signals. The parts and some gloss black paint would only set you back about 15-20 dollars and maybe 20 minutes of time.
 

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If it were me I would just get longer mounting bolts and some aluminum or stainless steel tubing and make spacers to offset the bags enough to clear the turn signals. The parts and some gloss black paint would only set you back about 15-20 dollars and maybe 20 minutes of time.
I ended up having to do this anyway after I added the top luggage rack to my G310R. Turns out the C-Bow mounts are different between the GS and R due to the luggage rack. So instead of spending another $220 on the GS C-Bow brackets, I did the spacers as you originally said. The issue is the locking part of the saddle back hits the top luggage rack, you can kind of make that out in the images. I have to fine tune my home made extension with some more paint and should be able to find square caps as this is stock 1" square tube. So I am going to put the OEM longer turn signals back on as they will look better now the bags are father out.

So yeah, I should of just did this in the beginning. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks for the idea.
 

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So I bought the Hepco & Becker C-Bow carrier with their Orbit Side Cases (610.293 00 01) and the turn signal hit the side of the saddle case. I am in the USA with a 2018 G310R, so wondering if the turn signals are longer here? I can get shorter aftermarket lights I am sure, but it is allot of work getting the tail lights off and I do not want to cut wires and void any warranties.

Guess I am asking, if anyone else has this issue or knows of it. Looking at the web page I bought them from it does seem like the turn signals are shorter. Is this a model year thing 17 to 18 or a USA thing with mine being longer?
I don't know if this helps but i fitted led flashers and just maybe, they might be a bit shorter than the O.E.M ones?
see pic. I measured their length and it is 1350mm or near enough 5/3/8th inches from the body to the tip of the flasher.
Maybe worth looking into?
(sorry for pic quality, we can't all afford I Phones!)
 

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Yes, no problem, in fact the handles on the bags (Orbit) are great for a passengers to hang onto.
 
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