[RidingDutchMan]

Hello follow bikers,

I just got myself a BMW G310GS and made the decision to add Soft Panniers rather than aluminium ones (consideration weight & safety).

Looking at the various brands in offer, I really like the Mosko Moto Backcountry 35L panniers. Main reason is the way they are fitted on a pannier bike rack, very easy to clip them on/off the bike and very sturdy and secure.

I am living in Thailand and the only aftermarket pannier rack is ‘smaller’ than the exhaust. For hard case panniers no problem as they are build ‘around’ the exhaust (i.e. they have an ‘indent’ at the bottom of the pannier where the exhaust is).

For people familiar with the Mosko Moto Backcountry soft-panniers, the mounting is on a ‘bracket’ attached to the pannier rack. There is a bracket on the pannier as well as on the pannier rack.

Due that the exhaust is ‘underneath’ the pannier rack (so effectively ‘sticking out’), I effectively don’t see a way to install these brackets so that the panniers are mounted vertical.

Is there anyone who has installed the Mosko Moto Backcountry 35L on a BMW G310GS and has a solution for this?

Or is there an aftermarket supplier that produces a pannier rack that ‘goes over’ the exhaust?

Your suggestions and solutions are very welcome.

Thanks and safe riding...


Best regards,
Louis

 

[francoisps]

@RidingDutchMan Thank you for your post. I'm considering the same Mosko setup for my GS and have the same concern re fitment over the exhaust. I have not yet fitted the side racks and have identified HepcoBecker and Givi as the only 2 "mainstream" suppliers of rectangular racks(for compatibility with Mosko's adapter plates). I have submitted a query with Chris at MoskoMoto and he has stated that they have a customer facing an issue with fitment on the G310GS but I'm awaiting feedback and whether they were able to make it work in the end. What side racks do you have fitted on your GS? On a side note, BMW just released their Atacama bags, which is based on the Mosko Backcountry bags. Hopefully some manufacturer adapts the solution for the G310GS.

 

[RidingDutchMan]

Hello Francois,

Many thanks for your swift reply. I am happy to hear you are looking for the same set-up on your G310GS.

I am very keen to hear from you after you have feedback from Chris (MoskoMoto), on the solution for the issue with one of his customers.

I posted my question in two sections on this forum and also got a reply from 'Stampede'. He is about to mount his Hepco Backer pannier racks on his G310GS next Tuesday. I have asked him to keep me posted on the result. Hopefully this will work fine.

As I also mentioned to Stampede, that I am keen to hear from him whether the distance between saddle and pannier on the 'left' side will be the same as on the 'right' side where the exhaust is located. Some of the aluminum panniers are wider on one side and smaller on the other side for that particular reason. If that is the case, I might need to consider a 35L pannier on the left and 25L on the right.

Let's keep each other updated on this subject. I am holding off buying a rack until I know that the Mosko Moto Backcountry panniers will fit without a problem. Otherwise it will be a waste of time.

Again, many thanks and best regards,
Louis

 

[Stampede]

@RidingDutchMan Thank you for your post. I'm considering the same Mosko setup for my GS and have the same concern re fitment over the exhaust. I have not yet fitted the side racks and have identified HepcoBecker and Givi as the only 2 "mainstream" suppliers of rectangular racks(for compatibility with Mosko's adapter plates). I have submitted a query with Chris at MoskoMoto and he has stated that they have a customer facing an issue with fitment on the G310GS but I'm awaiting feedback and whether they were able to make it work in the end. What side racks do you have fitted on your GS? On a side note, BMW just released their Atacama bags, which is based on the Mosko Backcountry bags. Hopefully some manufacturer adapts the solution for the G310GS.

I will try to update you on Tuesday after I mount the Hepco Becker side racks on my GS. I will include a pic of the H.B. racks with Caribou hard cases mounted.

Cheers,
Bill

 

[francoisps]

I will try to update you on Tuesday after I mount the Hepco Becker side racks on my GS. I will include a pic of the H.B. racks with Caribou hard cases mounted.

Cheers,
Bill

Hi @Stampede Thanks for the info, looking forward to your update. When you take photos of the Hepco racks on your GS, can you please do ones specifically focusing on the rack position relative to the exhaust, this is something Hepco seem to have ignored in their pics as they are all taken from the opposite side of the bike. Good luck with the fitment.

 

[RidingDutchMan]

Hi Francois / Bill,

On Friday I sent an email to Mosko Moto regarding the Backcountry Paniers on the G310GS. Today I received the following reply:

QUOTE

Hi Louis.

Roel here with Mosko Moto. Thanks for your message and your interest in our gear. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. There are no workable racks at the moment. I know some are being produced but there is nothing to go with our BC35 system yet. I did fit the Reckless 80 on the 310GS last weekend. It looked and fitted great. If you are looking for a luggage system soon this would be your best bet at the moment. The R80 will be back in stock by the second week of September.

From October we should be shipping from The Netherlands as we are opening a fulfillment center near Amsterdam. Shipping time and cost will reduce dramatically. Also no more hassle with customs and fees. There will be tax added to the price, which is the case now as well but you pay it at customs. Final pricing will be known once we start shipping from NL.

Shipping to Thailand is possible but we have had some issues in the past.

Cheers,

Roel Bremmers
Mosko Moto

UNQUOTE

It seems I have to wait until there is a solution for the Backcountry Panniers. I really like them but the exhaust seems to be a problem for the moment.

STAMPEDE - I look forward whether these panniers fit on the H&B Pannier Rack that you have.

Cheers,
Louis

 

[Stampede]

Hi Francois / Bill,

On Friday I sent an email to Mosko Moto regarding the Backcountry Paniers on the G310GS. Today I received the following reply:

Hey Louis,

I got the same email from Mosko Moto. It is confusing to me as I talked to someone at Mosko Moto on the Phone and they told me that the BC35L bags would work fine on the H and B side racks for the 310GS.

UPS screwed up my delivery of the side racks today so I have to go pick them up at 5:30 pm Mountain Time at the UPS facility here in Pocatello Idaho. Once I get them mounted up I will post some pics.

I sent a picture to Mosko Moto of a G 310GS with a Hepco & Becker side rack installed on it. I haven't heard back from them as of yet. I will update here when and if they contact me.

Regards,
Bill

 

[Stampede]

OK Guys, here are the pics of my GS with the H&B side racks mounted.

It is not good news. The right side is problematic with the exhaust as far as mounting the Mosko Moto BC35L bags. I just got off the phone with Dusty (what a great guy) at Mosko Moto. He is going to see if they can find a solution and get back with me to possibly test it out for them. I will keep updating as I hear more from Mosko Moto.

Stay tuned!

 

[porth]

Get yourself some shorter led indicators off ebay. I paid about $50 for a set of 4, they work really well.

 

[francoisps]

OK Guys, here are the pics of my GS with the H&B side racks mounted.

It is not good news. The right side is problematic with the exhaust as far as mounting the Mosko Moto BC35L bags. I just got off the phone with Dusty (what a great guy) at Mosko Moto. He is going to see if they can find a solution and get back with me to possibly test it out for them. I will keep updating as I hear more from Mosko Moto.

Stay tuned!

Thanks Stampede, great photos. I can see the issue with the mosko bracket, the bracket will have to sit higher to clear the exhaust, or spacers to make it sit further out and a heat shield to protect the bag. I have the Akrapovic pipe on which I suspect might be a little lower but slightly wider than OEM, judging by photos, might take my bike to a BMW dealer to compare with OEM. At least I don't have to deal with those long stem indicators the DOT required for the US version.

 

[Stampede]

The turn signals will be a pretty easy fix. Although they won't be DOT compliant. But WHO CARES! > I am really hoping that Mosko Moto comes up with a fitment solution. Their soft bags are the best IMHO. Hepco Becker says that any of their side cases will work and I know that I can fit the Caribou cases also. Roger at Caribou Motorcycle Luggage has been very helpful as well. But those are all hard cases and my heart is set on the Mosko Moto bags. I'm not giving up yet. If I can't get a mounting solution for the Mosko Moto bags i will get the Caribou cases.

 

[RidingDutchMan]

Hello Bill (@Stampede),

Thank you for sending the pictures. It's clear to me that on the existing H&B racks the exhaust is too close to mount the Mosko Bracket.

I have a friend who is an airline mechanic and he proposes to make a modification to the H&B rack.

Question, if you look at the H&B rack, how many inches (or cm's) do we need to 'extend' the rack (outwards) in order to avoid contact between the exhaust and the Mosko Bracket? Would you be in a position to measure this for me?

I would like to check whether extending the rack us possible before actually ordering the rack as I want to avoid ordering if there is no solution.

If there is a solution, I will share this with you on this forum.

Many thanks for your assistance & best regards,
Louis

 

[Stampede]

Hello Bill (@Stampede),

Thank you for sending the pictures. It's clear to me that on the existing H&B racks the exhaust is too close to mount the Mosko Bracket.

I have a friend who is an airline mechanic and he proposes to make a modification to the H&B rack.

Question, if you look at the H&B rack, how many inches (or cm's) do we need to 'extend' the rack (outwards) in order to avoid contact between the exhaust and the Mosko Bracket? Would you be in a position to measure this for me?

I would like to check whether extending the rack us possible before actually ordering the rack as I want to avoid ordering if there is no solution.

If there is a solution, I will share this with you on this forum.

Many thanks for your assistance & best regards,
Louis

Hey Louis,

It looks like the exhaust extends about 1 1/2 inch beyond the side rack. So you would need to extend about 2 inches for clearance. I spoke to Dusty at Mosko today and he is still looking into a solution for me. I also had some ideas that I ran by him and he thought they were viable as well. I will include a crude drawing of one of my idea using 1/8" aluminum plate In the pic I refer to "Your Pucks" Meaning the Mosko Moto Pucks. Keep in mind nothing is to scale but you should get my drift. I have considered using some 6061 T6 extruded aluminum square tubing as a spacer. It is available in 2 1/2 inch square which I think would work fine as well.

Regards,

Bill

 

[Zente]

I like do simple and inexpensive solutions to problems, so here are my questions:


What is the O.D. ( Outer Diameter ) in inches please of tubes on your rack?
Is the Rack - Aluminum or Steel?



I will work out some things and get back with you ASAP.


I worked aerospace projects for over 15 years... this stuff is simple by comparison.

 

[Stampede]

What is the O.D. ( Outer Diameter ) in inches please of tubes on your rack? Is the Rack - Aluminum or Steel?

5/8 in. OD Steel.

 

[francoisps]

@RidingDutchMan @Stampede @Zente Hey guys, any progress on this issue with the GS with Hepco racks and Mosko bags? I got a chance to compare my GS with an Akrapovic exhaust with another GS the still has the OEM exhaust. The Akra's highest point is about 2.5 inches lower than the OEM exhaust. The Akra also reaches further back, almost ending inline with the turn signal.

 

[alekspalatov]

Kind of late now, maybe you guys figured it out. BUT I follow this guy on YouTube, he seemed to upgrade his luggage to MoskoMoto Backcountry Panniers, not sure if the 25L or 35L. I currently have the MoskoMoto Rackless 40L on my 2019 G310gs but I was thinking of upgrading to the MoskoMoto panniers.

Although the Rackless 40L are awesome, I am looking for more "convenience" when taking my bike around town and not having to remove them form the bike.

 

[jimma47]

Kind of late now, maybe you guys figured it out. BUT I follow this guy on YouTube, he seemed to upgrade his luggage to MoskoMoto Backcountry Panniers, not sure if the 25L or 35L. I currently have the MoskoMoto Rackless 40L on my 2019 G310gs but I was thinking of upgrading to the MoskoMoto panniers.

Although the Rackless 40L are awesome, I am looking for more "convenience" when taking my bike around town and not having to remove them form the bike.

Looks like they used a hydraulic ram to bend the pannier frame slightly and away from the exhaust. Not a bad plan if it doesn't weaken the frame.