Hi Guys, helped me out here, can't decide..the 310 or the 650 single. Need a lightweight adventure bike that can do the tarmac as well. Current bikes DRZ400E Oz spec and a R65LS
The F650GS Dakar is no enduro machine but as it has a 21" front wheel it has no problems for dual-purpose usage. A F650CS on the other hand is not suited for anything but hard surface. I personally did voluntary dispatch rider duty for the Home Guard on a 2002 F650GS. In winter I equipped it with skies. Of course my ordinary service bike, a Husqvarna MC-258A (automatic) was more suited for off-road duty, but the Beemer managed fine too.depends on the usage. I don't think F650 is suited for off-road. If you need a dual-purpose maybe better the G650 single cylinder
Yes, did the same on occasion.No problems going 200 kilometers on my G310GS, and when Canada opens up for us Michiganders again, I plan to go much farther.
the old 650 has vibration issues.. Vibrations have been removed in the new model of GS 310. If you can handle big weights well as its game of balance(adventure), then 650 is good choiceHi Guys, helped me out here, can't decide..the 310 or the 650 single. Need a lightweight adventure bike that can do the tarmac as well. Current bikes DRZ400E Oz spec and a R65LS
My F650GS (with the 800 ccs) was a gem. I had it for only 20K miles, though, because I retired from motorcycling, only to be drive back by the pandemic after a year, when I decided, if the bug was threatening I might as well run into a deer. I wish I were a wrench man like you but I tend to create more problems than I solve if I attempt anything beyond an oil change and chain lube.The 650 single had issues with water pump, burning wire loom and bearing of the outgoing shaft (usualy due to too tight chain). I had a F650GS ym. 2002 from odometer 15 000 to 96 000 km, during 9 years. I drove it all year round, in any weather from summer heat of + 35*C to winter cold - 28*C. I had no issues with vibration, water pump or shaft bearings. I had to repair the ignition lock electrics. I made a hole in the engine cover when a drive chain broke. After the hole was welded, the bike was fine again. The last 50 000 km I had imprved suspension on it. I had the cheapest Öhlins in the rear and Hyperpro progressive springs in the front. Had to get rid of it when it started rusting to much due to lack of ACF-50 treatment and road salt.
Currently I have a ym. 2018 G310GS and am happy with it. I have 19 000 on the odometer and have had to change the water pump once. (BMW did not accept the repair as my two year warranty was 4 months overdue.) I've changed the cush rubbers and drive chain. I've removed the rear foot peg supporting brackets to save weight.
In comparsion, I preferer the G310GS over the F650GS. The newer bike is lighter and nimbler, it has much better ABS and is funnier to ride. Then again the 650 had better load capacity and better low end torque. The 650 also had a better range due to larger fuel tank. The G310 has a lot more plastic covers to remove before getting access to bike for maintenance.
I wold go for the newer bike, if I didn't need the load capacity.
There used to be an active forum and a very good technical FAQ on f650.com. The FAQ is to be found here nowadays. Go and check it out, if you want to dig deeper in to the F650 series of BMW motorcycles.